In his most recent interview with Jimmy Moore, Gary Taubes did a bit of a mea culpa on the notion that dietary carbs are required to store fat. He offers up a rather weak description of how he got it wrong for so long in his lectures ("skewed") and claims this wasn't something from the book but rather the lectures. Originally my post here stated that strictly speaking this was true, but upon rereading those sections of GCBC it is quite obviously not. One could even go so far as to say it is the lynchpin of his hypothesis, but that is open to interpretation. Still, Taubes repeated in the interview that G3P is "rate limiting" in the esterification process, a claim he made unequivocally in GCBC. Here's the relevant paragraph:
A single molecule plays the pivotal role in the system. It goes by a number of names, the simplest being glycerol phosphate. This glycerol-phosphate molecule is produced from glucose when it is used for fuel in the fat cells and the liver, and it, too, can be burned as fuel in the cells. But glycerol phosphate is also an essential component of the process that binds three fatty acids into a triglyceride. It provides the glycerol molecule that links the fatty acids together. †116 In other words, a product of carbohydrate metabolism -- i.e., burning glucose for fuel -- is an essential component in the regulation of fat metabolism: storing fat in the fat tissue. In fact, the rate at which fatty acids are assembled into triglycerides, and so the rate at which fat accumulates in the fat tissue, depend primarily on the availability of glycerol phosphate. The more glucose that is transported into the fat cells and used to generate energy, the more glycerol phosphate will be produced. And the more glycerol phosphate produced, the more fatty acids will be assembled into triglycerides. Thus, anything that works to transport more glucose into the fat cells -- insulin, for example, or rising blood sugar -- will lead to the conversion of more fatty acids into triglycerides, and the storage of more calories as fat.
In his footnotes, Taubes cites the following book: Regulation in Metabolism by Newsholme & Start, 1973. Here are two of the citations because I think their wording would indicate that Taubes feels this text is authoritative, and, presumably if he's recommending it, he has read it himself.
An excellent review of the regulation of fat metabolism and adipose tissue is Newsholme and Start 1973: 195-246.
Glycerol phosphate: For a review of the role of this molecule, the triglyceride/fatty-acid cycle, and the glucose/fatty acid cycle, see Newsholme and Start 1973:214-34.
OK, so I did go "see" for myself. I've been somewhat sitting on this one for a while because I think it is particularly damning given specific wording of the excerpts from this text I'm about to share. I wanted to share it first in my interview with Jimmy (even though that won't air for a few months).
What I transcribe below is the section in Chapter 5 Adipose Tissue and Fat Metabolism entitled "The control of esterification" that deals with this theory: {} are my comments ;-)
In the case of the hypothetical, primitive animal it has been shown how large changes in blood glucose concentration could automatically cause reciprocal changes in plasma fatty acid concentration. However, in the rat the blood glucose concentration does not fall by more than 30% during two days of starvation and this would appear to be insufficient to cause the marked increase in fatty acid mobilization that occurs under these conditions. During the same period the plasma insulin level is decreased by about 80% (ref 41, see Table 7.3) and this hormone is known to regulate esterification. Insulin stimulates the membrane transport of glucose into the adipose tissue cell and increases the rate of glycolysis and the glycerol phosphate concentration. During starvation the reduction in the plasma insulin level results in a decreased rate of glycolysis and a lowering of the glycerol phosphate concentration. This restricts esterification and consequently fatty acid mobilization is stimulated. {I know what you're thinking ... so far so good right?}
This theory is supported by the fact that the content of glycerol phosphate in adipose tissue is decreased during starvation and it is markedly increased when adipose tissue from a starved animal is incubated with glucose and insulin. {Here is where I believe, having heard all he needed to hear, Taubes stopped reading ... but read on dear readers} There are a number of problems associated with the simple idea that esterification is controlled by the membrane transport of glucose. First, there is no evidence that the concentration of glycerol phosphate is limiting for the process of esterification (the Km for glycerol phosphate of the first enzyme in the pathway is not known). Second, since glycerol phosphate dehydrogenase catalyses a reaction which is close to equilibrium, the concentration of glycerol phosphate can be controlled by both the cytoplasmic [NAD+]/[NADH] ratio and the concentration of dihydroxyacetone phosphate. (ref 42)
Dihydroxyacetone phosphate + NADH ↔ Glycerol phosphate + NAD+
These quantities may vary independently of the glycolytic rate. (ref 17) Third, the addition of adrenaline, fatty acids or acetate to the incubated fat pad preparation stimulates esterification but does not increase the content of glycerol phosphate. (ref 42) This experiment suggests that factors other than the glycerol phosphate concentration can regulate esterification. Such factors remain unidentified at present. Nonetheless, it must be emphasized that a marked decrease in the concentration of glycerol phosphate could limit the rate of esterification and therefore variations in its concentration must always remain a potential mechanism of control.
The entire first paragraph essentially lays out a hypothesis, and evidence consistent with that hypothesis is included in the opening sentence of the second. But the gist of the remainder of this paragraph is to lay out the case AGAINST it.
I don't know how much more bluntly Newsholme and Start could have stated the first point. To repeat:
"there is no evidence that the concentration of glycerol phosphate is limiting for the process of esterification."Just how does one go from that to:
In fact, the rate at which fatty acids are assembled into triglycerides, and so the rate at which fat accumulates in the fat tissue, depend primarily on the availability of glycerol phosphate.??????????????????? You'll note I'm picking at Taubes' wording here too. He uses that word fact, not probably, not "could", not that this is some conjecture etc.
The second point is really the biggie here. Let me try to explain this to those without a degree in chemistry. All chemical reactions can theoretically proceed in either direction, so that if A + B → C + D, then C + D → A + B. Many chemical reactions are considered irreversible because one direction is much more energetically favorable than the other. The energy requirement to go in reverse is simply too high. Combustion of hydrocarbons is a good example (e.g. burning propane). But other reactions can go in both directions, we call these reversible reactions, and use the double arrow to indicate this (actually it's usually two arrows in opposite directions on top of each other, often with the length of the arrows reflecting the preferred direction). If we put compounds A&B, C&D, or three or all four of them into a beaker, initially one reaction occurs at a faster rate but both are occurring until the system reaches a state of equilibrium. At equilibrium, the concentrations of A, B, C, and D remain constant, and we can define an equilibrium constant (Keq) that represents a ratio of these concentrations. This makes the system appear static, but it is actually a dynamic equilibrium with the rates of the forward and reverse reactions being equal. There is a principle called LeChatelier's Principle that applies to systems in equilibrium. In short, if we do anything to displace the system from its equilibrium state (in chemistry we usually referred to this as perturbing the equilibrium or applying a stress), the reaction rates will temporarily "shift" in order to re-establish the equilibrium. One way we can do this is to add one or more of the compounds to the system. The equilibrium constant Keq is called a constant for just that reason. If I add more A to the system above that is at equilibrium, I have increased the concentration of A and thus altered K (which is a ratio of the concentrations). The system will react so as to lessen the concentration of A so as to bring K back to Keq. This would involve a "shift to the right" being an increase in the reaction rate of the forward reaction. (If you're interested in the math involved, here's one example).
So what they are saying in the second point is that the
DHAP + NADH ↔ GP + NAD+
reaction is close to equilibrium and therefore should behave in the manner described above. If we add DHAP then GP formation should increase. If there's more NADH, it should as well, and if there's more NAD+ then the reverse reaction should "consume" GP and reduce its concentration. But the concentrations of these other three components of the equilibrium system vary in ways that are not correlated with how much glycolysis is going on. Were this system controlled simply by LeChatelier's Principle, then increases in DHAP (an intermediary in glycolysis) would exert predictable changes in the other three components of this system. Rather, the conversion of DHAP to GP is determined by the activity of an enzyme.On to point 3 that directly addresses whether it is the G3P level (however manipulated) that is rate limiting in esterification. The addition of adrenaline, fatty acids OR acetate alone can increase esterification rate without a corresponding increase in the G3P level in the cell. Of course at the time of publication, the text states that the mechanisms of this were not yet known. I suspect ASP is working it's magic here. The lack of change in G3P level indicates two possibilities, either basal G3P levels are in sufficient excess of needs that whatever stimulates esterification only depletes the G3P slightly as it is incorporated into triglycerides, or fatty acid uptake (or adrenaline or acetate) stimulates G3P production to meet the needs to esterify FA's but the additional G3P is consumed in the esterification process so that the level remains unchanged, or both.
Bottom line: This reference DIRECTLY contradicts that which Taubes cites in GCBC and implies is discussed in this text. At a minimum, Taubes should have done what he says he does and follow the research forward to present day. That there were factors unknown in 1973 should have led him to further research and no doubt to discover ASP. But he clearly didn't want to.
Throughout this process, I necessarily made judgments about the quality of the research and about the researchers themselves. I tried to do so using what I consider the fundamental requirement of good science: a relentless honesty in describing precisely what was done in any particular work, and a similar honesty in interpreting the results without distorting them to reflect preconceived opinions or personal preferences […] I hope that I, too, will be judged by the same standard.
~ Gary Taubes in Good Calories, Bad Calories
Just doing my part here. Taubes' continued silence on these matters "speaks volumes".
If this comment remains here, it means that to date that you are reading this post, Gary Taubes has not formally addressed this very real criticism and issue with his writings. He has also failed to set the record straight in any meaningful forum which is why you still have people claiming, to this day, that you can't store fat or get fat without dietary carbohydrate.
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